‘Survivor’ Castaway Kass: ‘People Were Calling Me Kass-anova’


"Survivor: Second Chance" (CBS)

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I ask a lot of questions in my pregame interviews that are meant to give us a feel for how people intend to play. Seeing as this was a returnee season, I asked everyone who they thought would be targeted first.

Almost everyone answered “Chaos Kass.”

So, for Kass to make it to the merge and to have some allies on her side speaks well of her return trip.

I spoke to the chaotic one the morning after her elimination and asked her about the wild vote, the alpha male alliance, and her unlikely partnership with Spencer…

Kass McQuillen: You know, I had half of a mind to not do your interview because of your affiliation with Max Dawson.
Gordon Holmes: Yes, but by putting you last in the Power Rankings all the time…he was only hurting himself.
McQuillen: (Laughs) Yeah, but your integrity is compromised when you associate with someone as bitter as Max.
Holmes: You’re assuming I had any integrity to begin with.
McQuillen:  That’s true. You did let Colton stand in for you, so that’s all out the window now.
Holmes: (Laughs)

Holmes: If I had said to you before the game, “You’re going to save Spencer one week, and he’s going to help vote you out the next”…
McQuillen: Technically he voted for Ciera. I don’t think we can say he voted me out. I know he intentionally did not write my name down. Who knew we were going to merge at thirteen?
Holmes: Yeah, that was crazy. It took Probst a month to read all the votes.
McQuillen: And if we hadn’t merged then, Savage would be gone. Ta Keo inevitably would have lost and Savage would have gone home. And Spencer and I didn’t have a problem. All that rivalry stuff is for people and it’s fun. But when you’re in the game you’re not going to throw your game away. Well, a good player isn’t going to throw their game away based on something that happened two years prior.

Holmes: As far as second chances go, everyone was targeting you, but you seemed to make some strong alliances.
McQuillen: I had a target the size of Iceland on me. Everybody wanted me out. It was an easy vote. So, I had to go in and make friends. And I did. Last night my phone was blowing up with nothing but love from everyone out there. Well, everyone but one person.
Holmes: A certain Power Ranker?
McQuillen: (Laughs) No, he wouldn’t have my number.

Holmes: Let’s talk about early Bayon. What were you doing while Jeremy was starting that alpha alliance?
McQuillen: I made amends with Tasha. We spent a night at the campfire talking about Cagayan. We agreed to move on and there were no hard feelings. And I genuinely meant it. I had the same conversation with Spencer. I was out there to play Second Chance, I wasn’t there to replay Cagayan. Early on, my plan was to lay low and let other people ruin their own game. When you have a ten-person tribe, there are people who are going to be far more annoying than me. And that happened. When we won the first challenge, that was a great relief. That bought me three more days. And by day six people were calling me Kass-anova, we were having fun at camp. I had my Joe-mance going. It was such a good vibe over there. We had clear first targets with Monica and Kimmi. It was like we were at summer camp. I was not disruptive. People expected me to come in like Abi and freak out over a bracelet or whatever. I was making bracelets for people! I got voted in because I said I’d be Chaos Kass, and you didn’t see Chaos Kass. You don’t have to act like that when you’re on a winning tribe and you’re not on the bottom.

Holmes: At new Ta Keo, Savage wanted to target Spencer, and use Ciera as a faux vote. Was the faux vote was caused you and Ciera to turn on him?
McQuillen: Savage was clearly with the men all along…and with Tasha. Savage came to me early on at Bayon and told me he didn’t trust me. He was going to have no tolerance for Chaos Kass. Savage gave me this lecture like he was my father. And I knew I wasn’t going to win him over. We did talk about being attorneys and things, but I knew I wasn’t in his top group. And I knew he was a person who judges and is unwavering in his view of things. So, he was a lost cause. When we got over to Ta Keo 3.0 and Savage said, “Let’s vote out Spencer and tell Ciera she’s the target, and it’s your idea.” I said, “We’re not going to do that, we’ve got Wiglesworth and Woo. Why would we throw Ciera out there? We’re supposed to be Bayon strong.” Poor gameplay on his part. I tried to talk him out of it. But, he insisted on doing it. And what that did was piss off Ciera.
Holmes: So why go after Woo instead of Savage?
McQuillen: Ciera wanted to go after Savage. Abi didn’t want to go after him. So we needed to go after someone who was in Savage’s pocket, which was Woo. Abi wanted to target Woo because he’d voted for her twice. It was just a way to keep tight with Ciera who was my number one out there and to keep close with our Ta Keo five…who were going to get back with Joe, Keith, and Wentworth at the merge. And that could have happened had Joe decided to come with us at the merge. So, Savage would have been next.
Holmes: So, the early merge saved him.
McQuillen: Oh yeah, he came back from that Tribal and he was an absolute temper-tantrum throwing baby about it. And he was very vocal about not trusting me and Ciera, and we’re terrible people.
Holmes: I heard he said some bad words.
McQuillen: Yeah. (Laughs) He would’ve been out next and the merge saved him because he got to get back with his bromance.

Holmes: Did you think Spencer was going to side with you last night or did you know he was a lost cause?
McQuillen: I knew. And Ciera knew because she threw a vote at Savage. When people come up to you after an immunity challenge and tell you you’re going home, and then seven or eight people do that you kind of know you’re going home. It’s a rough afternoon. And then to go to Tribal where someone is spewing hate at you. It sucks. Respect the game enough to blindside me.

Holmes: Alright word association time. Let’s start with Terry.
McQuillen: A great father. A good man. A gentleman. Love the guy. Solid.
Holmes: Ciera?
McQuillen: The daughter I never had when I was nineteen-years-old. Love her to death. I could be her mom but we’re more like sisters.
Holmes: Stephen?
McQuillen: Cerebral and poetic and a bad chopper.
Holmes: Joe?
McQuillen: He’s a gentleman, but he’s wishy-washy. He’s great at surviving.
Holmes: Keith?
McQuillen: (Spits)
Holmes: Jeremy?
McQuillen: Jeremy is tough. And he’s focused and he’s nice.
Holmes: Wentworth?
McQuillen: Oh…I don’t know. I didn’t come up with these predetermined Harry Potter references.
Holmes: You’re not supposed to.
McQuillen: Scrappy.
Holmes: Wiglesworth?
McQuillen: Invisible.
Holmes: Kimmi?
McQuillen: Passionate.
Holmes: Monica?
McQuillen: Drunken Periscoper. Bitter.
Holmes: Savage?
McQuillen: He’s like a toddler and a curmudgeon all in one.
Holmes: Woo?
McQuillen: He’s a sweetheart, not suited for the game.
Holmes: Abi?
McQuillen: A firecracker. Love that girl.
Holmes: Tasha?
McQuillen: Wow…she’s vindictive.
Holmes: Spencer?
McQuillen: Spencer is probably too cerebral for his own good.

Holmes: With such an early merge, it wasn’t ridiculous to think it could be an early jury as well. Did Tasha think about that at all?
McQuillen: I don’t think anyone was thinking we’d have a ten-person jury. That’s just unheard of. And I really think the manner in which she went about things was overly cocky. She was just so antagonistic about me the entire day. And she was banking that I wouldn’t be on the jury. You saw the look on her face when Probst said it. And we all know the first member of the jury is very important.
Holmes: Yeah, they set the tone at Ponderosa.
McQuillen: Exactly. It would’ve been more savvy for her to compose herself, blindside me, and gain some respect. It’s reflective of her social skills and lack of personal growth between seasons.
Holmes: Stephen had an interesting point about last night’s targets not being challenge threats. What do you think that means for the game that people are overlooking the challenge competitors.
McQuillen: I think it’s a unique season in that we have so many challenge threats left. Part of that is having thirteen people at the merge. I think it’s great strategy for the alphas to stick together. I don’t think we’ve seen it happen before. I love Jeremy’s tact of staying in that group, but trying to look small to them. To defer to them in some ways, but really be in silent control. So, when I saw his pre-game and saw his strategy, I was like, “Wow.” I respect people who are trying to change and correct things they did wrong their first time.
Holmes: Without getting into spoiler territory, is improvement over a previous season something you’re going to be looking for when you vote?
McQuillen: Definitely. I was taking my second chance very seriously. I improved on a huge deficiency in my game. So, I’m looking for someone who showed up, not to exact revenge, but to make the correction needed to win the game. And I think there are a few people who are doing that. A lot of people are slipping into their old ways.

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