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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fan Laura Alexander: ‘I’m a Bit of a Smart A**’

February 6, 2013

Laura Alexander (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Laura Alexander
Age: 23
Hometown: Washington, DC
Occupation: Administrative Officer

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Fans” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the returning players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

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Gordon Holmes: You used to live in Beaver County, is that where Amber Mariano is from?
Laura Alexander: It actually is.
Holmes: Is she a big, huge legend out there?
Alexander: Well, for me at least because I’m a big fan of the show. I actually met her once. I was in high school and I was in a small-town pageant called Miss Beaver County Outstanding Young Woman…it’s really embarrassing. But, she was a judge.
Holmes: And how did you do in that competition?
Alexander: I was the second runner-up. So, I did pretty well. There were twenty of us.
Holmes: Do you hold a grudge against Amber for your finish?
Alexander: (Laughs) No, I was super excited to get a picture with her.
Holmes: Is your goal to come out here and show her up?
Alexander: (Laughs) No, I’m a huge fan of Amber and Rob.

Holmes: One of your pet peeves is overtly religious people. We’ve seen a lot of that on “Survivor” recently.
Alexander: Oh yeah. Absolutely.
Holmes: How are you going to handle it if someone comes to you and wants to pray before an immunity challenge?
Alexander: I grew up in a very small town. Everybody is Christian, not a lot of diversity. But, I have traveled; I’ve lived in Muslim countries for about a year. I’m open to different religions, I just don’t like when it’s pushed on somebody. If religion plays a theme in this season, you have to find a balance of going along with it. It’s obviously not my preference. But if it comes to that, I can sit, stand, and kneel with the best of them.
Holmes: You would all of the sudden become very religious.
Alexander: (Laughs)
Holmes: You also don’t like arrogance. Are you familiar with the show you’re about to go on?
Alexander: (Laughs) Absolutely. I can find humor in it, at least. And I think the interviews will show that. Just from first impressions I think we are going to have a lot of egos on the island. It’s a part of the show. I think the show casts so you have a lot of A-type personalities clashing with each other.
Holmes: You’re on to them.
Alexander: Yes, I am.
Holmes: Are you an A-type personality?
Alexander: I’m definitely a type, I don’t know if I’m A-type. (Laughs) I think I have a strong personality. I’m pretty aggressive in my day-to-day life. I get what I want because I work for it. I think a lot of other contestants might have some undeserved confidence and that’s where the difference is. And honestly, someone with an ego is the easiest to work.

Holmes: Your bio says you are obsessed with “Survivor.” When did this obsession first consume you?
Alexander: I caught on at the end of the very first season because that’s when it really started to boom. And it just became a thing that me and my mom did growing up. The rest of the family wasn’t really interested.
Holmes: Losers.
Alexander: I know, I know.
Holmes: Do you still talk to those family members?
Alexander: (Laughs) I do. It’s an embarrassing thing.
Holmes: I’m embarrassed for you.

Holmes: Why do you think you were cast?
Alexander: For a few reasons; I think what you see is not what you get. I’m blonde, I look like a couple of the other blondes out here. But, I was not cast for the same reason they were cast. I’m very ambitious. I’m smart on paper. I think they compared me to Sophie a little bit and asked, “Why are you different?” I’m a bit of a smart ass. I do have a sense of humor. They see me as a fireball a little bit.
Holmes: Before “South Pacific” I remember thinking that Sophie was super young, but she was mature enough that she could relate to people who were much older. Do you relate to people older than you?
Alexander: Absolutely. I think growing up I was mature for my age. So, it was easier to relate to someone older. I’m 22, but I have a lot of experience under my belt so far. But at the same time I have a young spirit and I can understand people my age. Even if I don’t like them, I can understand their goofiness. If I need to play sorority girl, I can. Visually that’s what people are going to perceive.

Holmes: I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but people tend to lie in this game.
Alexander: (Laughs) Oh no.
Holmes: It’s horrible. Are you prepared to lie to get ahead?
Alexander: Absolutely. You have to come into this game knowing what it’s about. I’m not going to be one of those people who shouts about integrity and morals.
Holmes: Unless it works in your favor.
Alexander: Exactly, but that’s the thing, it’d be a lie.
Holmes: You would lie about being offended by lying. That’s brilliant.
Alexander: (Laughs) Exactly.

Holmes: You are a very attractive young woman.
Alexander: Thank you.
Holmes: Some people flirt to get ahead in this game.
Alexander: What? Strange.
Holmes: It’s weird, but it has happened a time or two. Is that a weapon you’re prepared to use?
Alexander: Absolutely. Just from being a 22-year-old woman…if being in a bikini makes someone else want to keep me in? Sure. Go ahead. I’m not going to be one of those girls jumping in the hammock on day one.
Holmes: I’d wait till day two, but I’m shy.
Alexander: (Laughs) But, I don’t want people to assume because I’m young and blonde that I’m going to be riding on someone’s coattails. I think I’d like to play a bit more aggressive than that. But visually, the way people perceive, if that’s going to cause them to underestimate me, then so be it. Flirting, yes, but there’s definitely boundaries. I don’t think it’s one of my strengths.

Holmes: You’ve said a few times that people will view you one way when you’re actually another way. Are you worried that you’re underestimating them?
Alexander: I think everyone out there is nervous, they all have a straight face on. Nobody is smiling, nobody is reacting. I think there are a couple of people that look really smart, really strategic. But, never underestimate stupidity either. (Laughs) You might want to align with someone who’s an idiot, but at the same time, mouths run.

Holmes: After you’ve won the million dollars, what do you intend to do with it?
Alexander: That isn’t something I’ve planned out. I have a life ahead of me, I’m 22, but I’d be smart about it. I’d invest a huge portion of it. My parents have done a lot for me, they made sure I had every opportunity growing up, so I’d like to pay my respects to them, in a sense. I definitely wouldn‘t be blowing it. I’m very cheap day-to-day. Maybe a nice vacation.

Holmes: Do you have any experience roughing it?
Alexander: Well, this won’t be my first time squatting if that’s what you’re getting at. (Laughs)
Holmes: I wasn’t trying to be that graphic.
Alexander: (Laughs) I lived in Morocco for four months. I lived in Israel for four months. The lifestyle is completely different and you have to get used to it. I hike, I climbed the highest peak in north Africa. I can absolutely rough it. There’s a part of me that’s a girly girl, I’m not excited about the bugs. But, I can do it.

Holmes: Are you worried about the lack of food?
Alexander: A little bit, because I’m a tiny person. On average they usually drop 15 pounds. If I drop 15 pounds it’s going to be a huge difference.
Holmes: Did you try to put on weight before coming out?
Alexander: I did. I gained probably eight pounds. It’s difficult being a small person. It’s the same as losing weight I guess. But I’m definitely going to feel the hunger pains. I like to eat, I get cravings a lot. I’m not exactly a health freak. I’m going to be all over those food rewards.

Holmes: What are your first impressions of the cast?
Alexander: We’ve got a boy who looks like he’s from “Jersey Shore” and has his mom do his laundry. We have a gentle giant who reminds me of James. He seems really friendly, but he’s huge. We have a couple of blondes, just like me, but I’m going to guess they weren’t cast for the same reasons. We have a curly, brown haired girl, she looks super sweet. Maybe she’s the next Sophie? Maybe a little bit of a bookworm. We’ve got a fun-looking hippy. He has long hair.

Holmes: If there’s a twist, what do you think it will be?
Alexander: I was trying to count in the van. I think they’re going to bring a couple of people back. I also think since season 25 is in the Philippines, that they’re going to try to save production costs and do this season in the Philippines. I think they’re bringing a couple of people back which I think is getting old. I guess it depends on who they’re bringing back. Honestly, I think it’s great for me because the first time my tribe loses the skinny girl is going to be a target. But, on the flip side, I can say, “They’ve already had their chance, let’s get them out.”
Holmes: If people come back, who would you like to see?
Alexander: Oh jeez, I don’t know. I guess somebody who just causes a lot of drama. I’d love to see the people that are super weird, super annoying, old.
Holmes: You lumped old in with weird and annoying.
Alexander: Those are the people who are going to be targeted off the bat and I need to keep people focused on something other than the skinny, little, blonde girl.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fave Cochran: ‘They’re Going to See a Different Guy’

February 5, 2013

John Cochran (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: John Cochran
Age: 25
Hometown: Washington, DC
Occupation: Harvard Law Student
Previous Finish: Cochran came in 8th place in “Survivor: South Pacific”
Memorable Moment: Cochran’s jump from Savaii to Upolu was his season’s pivotal event.
Fun Fact: Cochran is the only person in the history of the world to successfully give himself a nickname.

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Favorties” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the new players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: After “South Pacific,” I called you the most memorable player in the post-Hantz era. It was obvious you’d be asked to return. Now that you have been, how does it feel?
John Cochran: It’s half exhilarating, half terrifying. I think when we’d talked about this before, I said I had a reputation that wasn’t necessarily flattering because I was viewed as weak, possibly annoying, and a traitor. I don’t necessarily agree with that characterization. But, I think with returning players they all have different baggage. It comes in different forms. So, I’m feeling a little more comfortable.
Holmes: I believe the term you used was you were worried about being “Sugar’d.”
Cochran: Well, yeah. I’m referring to the fact that in her first season, and I didn’t do nearly as well as a she did, but she made it to the end and in “Heroes vs. Villains” she was voted out first. That’s a legitimate worry of mine, but I think everybody is worried about that. That’s everyone’s great fear. After that you make new goals; I want to make the merge, I want to make the family visit, I want to make the finals. So, as long as I’m not Sugar’d I’ll consider that a huge accomplishment.
Holmes: If you’re around on day four…
Cochran: (Laughs) Yes.
Holmes: High fives all around.

Holmes: You mentioned changes to your game. What do you have in mind?
Cochran: I need to be a little more proactive. I need to either create or insert myself into an alliance very early on. Last time I was on the periphery the entire time, and then I switched sides thinking I was ingratiating myself into a new alliance. I was on the periphery of that too and got voted off immediately. So, I need to play less of a reactive game and more of a proactive game. I’m fundamentally the same person. I’ll try to downplay some of my anxiety and not vocalize it quite as much. I don’t think that does me that many favors. I’m going to be aggressive, well, as aggressive as I can get which is not super aggressive. A little more assertive as far as getting what I want.
Holmes: A man who has learned from his mistakes.
Cochran: Last time I’d find out I was on the outs, then I’d start freaking out or if I find out I got a vote I’d start whining to everybody. That’s not a healthy attitude to have.
Holmes: You have a very self-deprecating sense of humor. It’s a great defense mechanism. I use it for the same reason. You use words like “annoying” and “whining.” But, as we’ve seen, the “Survivor” community is a big family when it’s all said and done and you seem like a really popular guy within those ranks.
Cochran: That was what was so surprising about my last experience. Generally I think I’m a relatively likable guy and I can get along with pretty much anybody. I think I was put in a bizarrely homogenous tribe last time where it was an LA model, a Miss America runner up, a country singer, Ozzy wants to be an actor. It was a very solid group that I didn’t fit into. I’m not sure what the question was…
Holmes: (Laughs) It was more of an observation than anything. You paint this picture like everyone’s annoyed by you, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Cochran: I think I have a good shot…just based on what I’ve seen it looks like a very diverse group. As long as there a diversity that I can fit in and flow around a bit, I’ll feel comfortable. And comfort is all I want.

Holmes: What’ve you been up to since “South Pacific”?
Cochran: I took the fall semester off while the season was airing.
Holmes: To bask in the glow…
Cochran: More like bask in the anxiety of seeing myself on TV and freak out about it. You know everything that’s going to happen, but you don’t know how it’s going to be portrayed. I’m already scared enough during law school, I didn’t want to juggle both anxieties. So, this last spring semester I went back to school to a hero’s welcome, hoisted on everyone’s shoulders. I’m trying to settle back down into academic life…but this is uprooting me again.
Holmes: Yeah, you’re doing this wrong.
Cochran: Really.
Holmes: For a smart guy…
Cochran: I’ve made several poor decisions.

Holmes: You played with returning players Ozzy Lusth and Benjamin “Coach” Wade. What did you learn from watching people hop back into the game?
Cochran: What Ozzy excels at is never going to be what I excel at. So, I think I learned a little bit more from Coach. And the big thing that Coach did, which I found to be his biggest asset was he was able to make everybody feel like they were his priority. That’s partially why I was so enamored with him.  I felt like, Coach thinks I’m his number one guy. But, Edna felt the same way, Brandon felt the same way. I don’t know if I’ll have the same stature as he did, especially because there are several more returning players. But, just making sure that everybody, especially those on the periphery of the alliance, is a part of the group, that seems to be the key to everything.
Holmes: In both “South Pacific” and “One World” we saw players who were on the bottom of their alliance fail to make moves that would put them on the top. Were the Kims, and Coaches, and Sophies of the world…
Cochran: (Laughs) Sophies of the world?
Holmes: (Laughs) That’s “Survivor” champion Sophie Clarke, to you. Do you think moves weren’t made because those players were able to fool the others into believing they were in better positions?
Cochran: I think Kim was doing a fantastic job of making everyone feel like they were her number one. Alicia made a disastrous move when she voted off Tarzan. She could have maybe even won, which is kind of a funny thought. But, inertia plays a dangerous role in this game, in that if you’re part of the majority alliance, even if you’re on the bottom, you’re like, “At least I’m part of this core group.” And then you get to the end and start realizing you’re in trouble. But I think people like Kim, Coach, and maybe even Sophie did a good job of making people feel safe.

Holmes: You get a lot of grief for making a dumb move. I disagree with that. I think Colby taking Tina to the final two is a dumb move. I think you gambled and lost. I feel the same way about JT when he gave his idol to Russell. If that’d worked, he’s in great position and looks like a genius.
Cochran: He got the dumbest move of all time and that could have worked out fantastically.
Holmes: Now, back to you, in your season Coach was able to play off his crazy reputation. People expected him to be nuts, and when they learned he was a normal guy, they probably felt like they got to see the real him. Is that accurate?
Cochran: Yeah, there definitely weren’t as many Amazonian pygmy tales going out. We definitely saw a different side of him. I think that was the most startling thing. He was a legitimate force in the game. Does this segue way into asking if I’m going to be the same?
Holmes: Nailed it. You’re an old pro at these interviews now.
Cochran: (Laughs) For me, I feel like it’s not like I told any tall tales or anything. It was all me, it was just an exaggerated version of me. The me you saw was the result of being on the periphery of an alliance and not being secure. I think I’d be a different person within the game if I felt some level of security. To get votes at every Tribal Council, even if it’s one or two, to always be the second option, it takes a toll on you emotionally. So, if there’s any security, they’re going to see a different guy.
Holmes: I’m a ridiculously paranoid person. I can’t imagine what it’s like to experience 39 days of constantly questioning everyone’s motives.
Cochran: It’s indescribable. And just thinking of these things is summoning feelings of nausea.
Holmes: So, you are feeling some pre-game jitters?
Cochran: Yeah, pre-game acid reflux. Imagine if you’re sitting there and two people walk off and all of the sudden a camera man and a microphone man dash after them. That’s going to freak you out. Maybe they’re talking about where the best coconuts are, but you have no idea. I’m a naturally hyper-analytical person to the point that it’s a character flaw. And so, it’s a very unhealthy environment for me. I’m doing some kind of permanent damage.
Holmes: You know, if my girlfriend cheats on me, she’s not going to be celebrated for it.
Cochran: (Laughs)
Holmes: But if I stab you in the back and it gets me further in the game, I’m a hero.
Cochran: There’s a perverse incentive to do nasty things in the game.

Holmes: Why do you think you were brought back?
Cochran: I think I made a big theatrical move in a season where there were certain predictable elements. I think the show values good narrators. I have a limited skill set, I’m not good in challenges, I’m not good around camp, I’m not good for team morale. But, I can maybe provide some commentary that’s enlightening or entertaining. And, I think Jeff Probst said in a Tout video, “I’d be interested to bring him back to see what someone who brings absolutely nothing to the table can accomplish a second time around.”
Holmes: I feel like you two have a very contentious relationship.
Cochran: (Laughs)
Holmes: Don’t get me wrong, I think he enjoys you, but he says it like a big brother who’s dunking his little brother’s head in the toilet. He does the same thing to me.
Cochran: He’s just an adult jock, ya know? (Laughs) But, I adore Jeff. I worship him.
Holmes: What’s it like to get the call inviting you back?
Cochran: It’s several things; it appeals to your ego. And that’s a part of returning players, there are a lot of egos. I intend to stroke a lot of egos. But you think, “Yeah, I am one of those amazing ‘Survivor’ players. I am a 7-Up Original.” And in retrospect, this is one of the best experiences of my life. Then the reality sets in; I was miserable out there. You’re sleeping on the ground, you’re hungry. What if I’m an outcast? What if everybody hates me? It’s half elation and half terror.

Holmes: Any first impressions of the cast?
Cochran: There was one guy I didn’t recognize, so I don’t know what the deal with that is. Maybe he’s a guy from season 25. Beyond that, I don’t think the subtitle for this season is going to be “Greatest ‘Survivor’ Players of All Time.” Erik Reichenbach is there, he gave up a necklace. Brandon was there, he gave up a necklace. Francesca was there, she got voted out first. I made, arguably, a very stupid move. But, then you have people like Dawn, so there isn’t a running theme of people who screwed up. And Phillip is kind of an eccentric character who arguable blew final Tribal Council by failing to say, “Look guys, I’m normal.”
Holmes: (Laughs) That’s not how he blew final Tribal Council.
Cochran: I’m cautiously optimistic. I am in the worst shape of everybody that was on that van. I was hoping there’d be some big personal transformation. I’d tear off my sweater vest and have these throbbing pecs.
Holmes: Surely there is someone who deals steroids in the Harvard area?
Cochran: (Laughs) I was actually contemplating that.
Holmes: (Laughs) That would’ve been awesome. Show Probst who’s boss.
Cochran: But, steroids are bad for you.
Holmes: Yes, if any kids are listening to this; don’t do steroids. But it’d be worth it to get Probst by the back of the neck.
Cochran: I’d look like Sheamus. It doesn’t look like Savaii, it looks like a group I’m cautiously optimistic about.  I don’t want to say they’re dumb people, but they made some dumb moves. There are actually some rational people I can see myself wanting to work with. It’s a nice balance.
Holmes: Any early thoughts on who you’d want to align with?
Cochran: Well…
Holmes: Besides everybody.
Cochran: That’s actually one of my thoughts; everybody. It’s one of these strategies I’ve been toying with. It’s very dangerous, but I align with everybody and tell them that my only genuine alliance is with them.
Holmes: Seems like you get two people talking and that might unravel pretty quickly.
Cochran: Yeah, but I’m telling them everything. If I keep complete openness about everything and I’m only being genuinely honest with a handful of people. Again, it’s such a departure from my last time around. It’s Kim-like. I feel like Kim did something similar.
Holmes: Where you’d get in trouble is people think you’re a strategist. Not to say you’re not, but they’d be looking for an angle.
Cochran: I have to be a strategist, I can’t do anything else. I can’t be Ozzy. I can try to do Sandra’s “anyone but me.” Actually, I want to sit out a challenge. That’s my big dream to sit out a challenge.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fan Michael Snow: ‘I Don’t Like Crazy’

February 4, 2013

Michael Snow (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Michael Snow
Age: 44
Hometown: New York, NY
Occupation: Event Planner

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Fans” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the returning players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: Are you a “Survivor” fan?
Michael Snow: I’m a huge “Survivor” fan. I’ve been watching for a number of years now.
Holmes: When did you start?
Snow: I want to say four or five years ago. It wasn’t because I wasn’t interested in it, I just never had a television. So, when I started watching television I found this show and said, “Whoa! This is crazy.” I immediately thought, I want to do this and started sending tapes in.
Holmes: How many times did you apply?
Snow: I’m bad with little, minor details, but I think four or five.
Holmes: Are you bad with names?
Snow: No, I’ll be fine out there with names, but if I see you four years later I’m going to be like,  “Oh, yeah…you…” I used to be good, but as I get older it’s flitting away. If I’m ever with you and don’t introduce you to people, it’s because I don’t remember your name.
Holmes: I’m the worst. I had a girlfriend where we had a cue that if I squeezed her hand three times quickly, she knew to introduce herself to people whose names I didn’t remember.
Snow: See, I’ve already forgot your name…
Holmes: Gordon.
Snow: Michael.
Holmes: Don’t feel bad about it, if I didn’t have these bios in front of me, I’d have forgotten.

Holmes: You don’t like crazy.
Snow: (Laughs)
Holmes: I have a hunch that some crazy is coming your way soon.
Snow: Oh, I anticipate running into crazy people. I don’t like crazy, but don’t we all live with crazy every day? I’ve had roommates, friends, coworkers who were just bananas, but it’s not a problem. It drives me crazy when people aren’t making any sense.
Holmes: You’re a theater guy, as am I. There seems to be a ton of crazy in that industry. Does that background help you at all?
Snow: Absolutely. I’m very easy-going. I have a long line of patience. But, I do reach that point where I just can’t take it anymore. I’m not worried about it. I’m not going to seem like a jerk because I’m not just going to fly off the handle if someone acts crazy. It’d have to build up.

Holmes: Do you have any concerns about how you’ll be able to handle the lack of food, lack of sleep, or lack of water?
Snow: Well, if I’m not eating my fuse is much shorter. That’s just something that I’ve known going into this that I’m going to have to really keep in check. It’s easier for me to handle that when I’m around people that I don’t know so well. With a bunch of total strangers, I’ll be on my best behavior.

Holmes: Why do you think you were cast?
Snow: That’s a good question!
Holmes: That’s why I asked it.
Snow: I’ve actually been wondering. I think there’s a lot to me. I’m serious, but I’m also a giant goofball. I’m empathetic, but I can be very frank. I think they saw a lot of different things. Here’s a guy that will say what’s on his mind, but he’s not a blabbermouth.
Holmes: I don’t see a giant goofball when I look at you.
Snow: You don’t?
Holmes: You seem perfectly respectable.
Snow: I’m not going to be goofy for goofy’s sake. It comes out in moments.

Holmes: As a “Survivor” fan you are surely aware that lying happens in this game. Have you set any limits for yourself as far as deception goes?
Snow: No, I’m surprised when people think that can play without lying. I’m not going to tell lies just to tell lies. I think the best lies come out of some truth. You bring out a lie when you need one. And if anyone thinks they can go through the game without lying, they’re fooling themselves. Even not saying something is a form of a lie.
Holmes: Is there anything about your personal life that you’ll keep a secret?
Snow: The one thing I considered doing was keeping my age under wraps. But, I don’t want to get caught in any kind of lie that’s stupid like that.
Holmes: I don’t think you need to lie about your age.
Snow: Yeah, but I think I’m the oldest one here.
Holmes: But you look perfectly fit. As long as you can contribute in challenges you should be fine.
Snow: But, people are so savvy now, they’ll find any reason to vote you out.
Holmes: Sophie from “South Pacific” is a good example. She’s very young, but she struck me as an old soul. The question is, can you talk to a young person and make it seem like you’re equals.
Snow: Right.
Holmes: Do you deal with younger people well?
Snow: Yeah. I work with, not kids, but this past couple of years I’ve been working with people from 23 to 30 years old. That isn’t a kid, but they’re from a different generation.

Holmes: What mistakes have you seen on the show lately that you’re hoping to avoid?
Snow: As a viewer, I find it frustrating when you see people who need to make a big move and they don’t do it. Hopefully, I’ll have the wherewithal and not be exhausted if that time comes for me.

Holmes: Any plans for the million bucks?
Snow: My partner and I want to get a house in New York.
Holmes: Oh, real estate in New York is so affordable.
Snow: I know. We might be able to afford a nice one-bedroom apartment if I’m able to win the million dollars.
Holmes: Is he also a “Survivor” fan?
Snow: He is. He loves watching it with me and talking about it.

Holmes: If there is a twist, what do you think it will be?
Snow: Returnees? The returnee thing…do I want to play against returnees? Yes. But, I also don’t want to because I think they have a huge advantage. If we have to play against returnees, we have to be really smart about it.
Holmes: Are there any returnees you’d want to see?
Snow: I don’t think they’d send “Boston” Rob out again. I’m a big fan of the show, so I’d like to watch them play. Maybe some of the good players like Russell.

Holmes: Do you have any experience roughing  it?
Snow: I grew up in Maine, so we did a lot of work on a farm. I come from a place of having to rough it a little bit. Shovel (expletive deleted) and take care of animals. We went fishing and hiking and camping. But, I don’t do it anymore, that’s going to be the interesting part.

Holmes: Any first impressions of this cast?
Snow: Well, the one thing I like is there’s a huge guy. I hope he’s on my tribe. He looks like he’s going to be really fun to play with. There’s a lot of younger people. I wasn’t thinking that I’d be worried about my age, but everyone looks so much younger. I don’t want them to see me as the old person right away.
Holmes: What do you think their first impression of you will be?
Snow: Here I am, a guy from New York City…I don’t look like I’m from the country. They may see me as kind of a smart guy. They might think, “Oh, let’s make him do the puzzles.” Which might not be their best choice.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fave Andrea: ‘We Can Stomp on (Fans’) Dreams’

February 1, 2013

Andrea Boehlke (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Andrea Boehlke
Age: 23
Hometown: New York, NY
Occupation: Entertainment Host and Writer
Previous Finish: Andrea came in 5th place in “Survivor: Redemption Island”
Memorable Moment: Andrea is the only woman to ever come back from Redemption Island.
Fun Fact: Andrea loves unicorns more than you love anything.

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Favorties” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the new players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: Why do you think you were brought back for this season?
Andrea Boehlke: I think I was called back because in my season I felt really stuck. I had a lot of potential to do things but it was a tattletale season. I did well in the challenges and I was so close to breaking out and doing really good things. But, it just didn’t pan out for me. I don’t like my season. I’m over my season.
Holmes: Boston Rob’s buddy system worked like magic.
Boehlke: It did, it really did.
Holmes: But I feel like it would never work again.
Boehlke: I couldn’t even talk to people on the other tribe without putting a target on my back. I couldn’t even talk to people in my alliance alone. It was really ridiculous. But I think people saw that I wasn’t really a follower even though it looked like that. And when I came back from Redemption Island I was trying my hardest. I was like, “C’mon guys!” (Andrea puts her thumbs up and smiles.)
Holmes: Is that how you did it? With your thumbs up?
Boehlke: (Laughs) Yes! With my thumbs up.
Holmes: That’s so positive. How could they resist?
Boehlke: I don’t know. But I think I deserve a second chance.

Holmes: The members of Ometepe who weren’t Boston Rob were tagged with the follower label. Is that something you’re going to try to combat this season or is it something you can use to your advantage?
Boehlke: I’m hoping people see me as a follower instead of remembering me only for betraying Matt. I plan to come in and play more aggressively this time. If they think I’m a follower I can pull the strings and hopefully nobody will see. Then, I’ll just coast to the end.
Holmes: Like in “Inspector Gadget” you just see this evil, secret hand petting a cat. You’re Dr. Claw.
Boehlke: (Laughs) Yeah.  Well, like Kim this past season. Having all of these relationships with people so they have some kind of trust with me. That if my name is being thrown around they would come to me. “I really like Andrea, so I’m going to tell her that I found this idol. Or, that they’re talking about her.” Whereas last time, people didn’t really bond with you so they didn’t want to save you. With Kim, everyone thought she was best friends with them. So, I want to have a lot of really close bonds.
Holmes: But, “Survivor” is very much a product of the last season the cast saw. Everyone just saw Kim rocking that strategy.
Boehlke: Yeah, you have to be careful. They might be worried about girls teaming up. Or, however people were voted out, they might want to do the exact opposite. Like Erik Reichenbach, he was tricked by a bunch of girls.
Holmes: Girls are the worst.
Boehlke: (Laughs) Girls are the worst. I’m actually scared of the girls, to be honest. So, I don’t want people to see me hanging out with other girls and get nervous. It’s going to be nuts.

Holmes: You were a Power Rankings…pimp. I don’t know why “pimp” was the first word to pop into my head. Bad ass, superstar, juggernaut…
Boehlke: (Laughs) I’ll take pimp!
Holmes: Pimp it is. Do you think looking at the game in that manner is going to help you your second time out?
Boehlke: Yeah. I was hoping you were going to be here because I actually do think it will help me. Because, if I had returned right after my season I don’t think I would’ve done very well. But, after watching two other seasons I analyzed it totally differently. If I had been thinking of the Power Rankings in my season, I would have known what was up. It gives you a view from up top.

Holmes: What’ve you been up to since “Redemption Island”?
Boehlke: I moved to New York. I’ve been living there almost a year, trying to get on to the Broadway. (Laughs)
Holmes: The Broadway?
Boehlke: Or the Off Broadway.
Holmes: I feel like you’re making words up.
Boehlke: I’m not.
Holmes: Do you sing?
Boehlke: I can sing, but I don’t like musicals as much. I like straight theater and improv.

Holmes: You played with returnees, now you are a returnee. What did you learn from playing with them?
Boehlke: Going in, I’m not worried about my edit, how I look in a swimsuit. All of that is gone. I had a boyfriend at the time and I was worried if they were going to put me in a showmance on the show. I was so paranoid over these things that didn’t matter.
Holmes: You kicked that guy to the curb so you could win “Survivor”? That’s messed up.
Boehlke: (Laughs) He’s gone now. And the first time playing, I was all about the adventure, which, if there are fans playing, they’re going to be so stoked to be here. They’ll all be these happy bunnies and kittens and we can stomp on their dreams because they’re all starry eyed. But, they might be pissed that we’re there and try to get rid of us first. Now I don’t need the adventure, I need a million dollars.
Holmes: “Screw the Adventure” is going to be the headline of this interview.
Boehlke: “Adventure, Adschmesure.”
Holmes: If there is a twist, what do you think it is?
Boehlke: There are a lot of crazy people here.
Holmes: Present company included?
Boehlke: (Laughs) Yeah, I thought, “Is this to get me to realize I’m a kooky person?”
Holmes: I wasn’t going to say anything, but…
Boehlke: I’m assuming it’s some kind of second chancers, maybe a Fans vs. Favorites II. There is one random guy. Have you seen him yet?
Holmes: I can’t say.
Boehlke: It’s all of these favorites and maybe one crew guy. There will probably be new people too because I only see ten people here.
Holmes: I’m psyched to see you back.
Boehlke: Aww…did you do this? (Raises the roof).
Holmes: That’s exactly what I did.

Holmes: Alright, what are your opinions of the cast thus far?
Boehlke: Have you seen the people here? (Laughs) At this point I’m hoping we’re able to make a shelter. I kind of expected some of them. I expected Phillip, I expected Cochran. I’m really surprised that Francesca is here. I can really see myself getting between a lot of this because I am friends with a lot of them or at least on good terms. I know that Francesca and Phillip can’t stand each other. And I’m pretty good with both of them. I don’t really know Corinne. I’m really leery of Brenda and Corinne and they’re probably leery of me. Who else, Brandon? Him with girls? You’re not sure if you should be wearing short shorts around him. I think it’s going to be nuts. I already know building the shelter, everyone’s going to be going off, there’s going to be so much paranoia. It’s going to be ridiculous. Hopefully I can form relationships with each person and be in the middle of all of that.

Holmes: How did you do with the elements in Nicaragua?
Boehlke: I did OK. I’m not worried about that, actually. I think I’ll do a lot better than a lot of people here. Francesca only made it six days. I made it to day thirty seven and I know how my body reacted. I’m ready for all of that. I lived with Phillip for thirty seven days, so I’m not worried about him getting on my nerves. I think some people are going to go crazy if they’re with him for that amount of time.

Holmes: What was it like getting the call to come back?
Boehlke: It was exciting, but I almost went back right after my season.
Holmes: For “South Pacific”?
Boehlke: Yeah. But I think now is a good amount of time for me. If I went back right away I never would have done the Power Rankings.
Holmes: And your life would be empty and sad.
Boehlke: I’d have this void that I needed to fill. But, I don’t think I would have been ready. But I have to win this.
Holmes: You will. Is the million dollars going to change you?
Boehlke: No, I’ll still do the Power Rankings, I’ll just have my assistant fax them over.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fan Julia Landauer: ‘I Want to Make Some Enemies’

January 31, 2013
Julia Landauer (CBS)

Julia Landauer (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Julia Landauer
Age: 21
Hometown: Stanford, CA
Occupation: Race Car Driver/Student

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Fans” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the returning players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: You think you’re like the lead character in ‘Monk’?
Julia Landauer: (Laughs) Yeah. I’m a little compulsive, not OCD. I’ve got little quirks, little things that bug me. Anything from shoelaces needing to be the same tightness…
Holmes: Mine or yours?
Landauer: (Laughs) Just mine.
Holmes: OK, does my recorder need to be at a right angle?
Landauer: No, but I do align things with right angles. It’s really hard to hang pictures and calendars because I need it to be equal. My friend and I had a bunch of posters in our room this year and it took forever to set them up. My desk has to be neat. So, those little quirks, if I’m focusing on them when I’m away, are going to take away from my game. So, I’ve been working on making myself a little uncomfortable and just dealing with it. And, I’m making progress.
Holmes: You’re in the middle of nowhere. There isn’t a right angle to be found.
Landauer: Yeah. Also, tan lines have been an issue for me. I don’t like having them. So, I’ve just been out in the sun a lot, not that you can tell because I’m fair skinned, but now I have tan lines. I’ve got to embrace it. I’ve started to learn how to make fire, and when I was on the ground I let ants crawl on me. My dad was watching and he was like, “Oh my God. She had bugs on her!” So, I’m making progress.
Holmes: That’s good, there’s a good chance you’ll have bugs on you in the near future.
Landauer: Probably. Q-tipping, or lack thereof is going to bother me. Like after my ears get wet.

Holmes: You are a race car driver.
Landauer: Hells yes.
Holmes: Hells yes, indeed. I know very little about race car driving, could you explain to me what the Skip Barber Racing Series is?
Landauer: It’s basically an amateur racing school. They teach you everything from how to drive the proper line, proper braking, they have a racing series. It’s “Arrive and Drive” so you don’t own your car. They mix up the cars every week. You pick your car out of a hat to make it as equal as possible. When I was thirteen I got into the car for the first time and did some practice. When I was fourteen I did a full series and I won the championship. I started in go-carts when I was ten. It was a family sport, I have a younger sister and a younger brother. It’s where boys and girls can compete on the same level. My parents thought it was very important to learn how to interact with the opposite sex. I fell in love with it, and I told my parents I need to keep doing this and if you support me I will give it my all and you will be proud parents.
Holmes: And they are proud parents? You’re a woman of your word?
Landauer: They are proud parents.

Holmes: Is racing a male-dominated sport?
Landauer: It’s definitely a male-dominated sport. But, there are a handful of women in every given series, and you’re definitely seeing more girls doing go-carting. I think it’s going to be a while before it’s equal, if it ever makes it to that. But, we’re seeing steps in the right direction.
Holmes: I’m betting you’re probably going to run into some alpha males pretty soon. Has racing taught you how to deal with those types?
Landauer: Yeah, my biggest pet peeves in personalities are alpha males and airheads.
Holmes: You might be in some trouble.
Landauer: I’m going to run into them while on the show. It’s going to be hard for me to contain my disgust with that behavior.
Holmes: You practiced with ants, you didn’t practice with any airheads?
Landauer: I guess I’ve chosen surroundings that don’t really have them. At Stanford you don’t have a lot of alpha males because we’re all told that we’re phenomenal people.
Holmes: Isn’t that how you make alpha males?
Landauer: No, it’s very level-headed. I figure I’ll have to buckle down and make it work while I’m out there.

Holmes: Are you a big “Survivor” fan?
Landauer: Yeah. I had watched a couple of episodes before. But, when I was recruited for the show, I have since become a huge, die-hard…
Holmes: You have basked in the glory that is “Survivor.”
Landauer: I have watched so many seasons. For the past couple of months my days have been doing my schoolwork, doing my racing work, eating, and watching “Survivor.”
Holmes: With the exception of all that work, that sounds awesome.
Landauer: (Laughs) It’s such an amazing show. And, the fact that luck plays into it, makes it incredibly terrifying for me. I feel like I have all the skills to go be the sole Survivor, but then there’s luck involved. It provides this X factor. And, it’s very authentic, which you don’t see in a lot of reality TV.
Holmes: Like “X Factor.”
Landauer: (Laughs)
Holmes: Luck is a huge part of it. I’m a big believer that if you play the game with the same cast and the same twists 100 times, you’ll get 100 different outcomes.
Landauer: People’s moods might be off one day and it gives you the false impression that they’re a good alliance, and they’re not. Anything could happen.

Holmes: What do you think it was about you that made them reach out?
Landauer: Um…
Holmes: That was the worst wording ever.
Landauer: (Laughs) Yes, but I know what you meant.
Holmes: This is what I do for a living, by the way.
Landauer: You’re off to a great start! I think there’s this bad ass mentality with race car drivers.
Holmes: You do seem somewhat bad ass.
Landauer: Thank you, I tried…despite the floral dress I’m wearing. There is that tough mentality, but I feel like I have a weird combination of skills that unlike other Survivors, I feel they could make me really relatable to people. I could also alienate people. I could be a swing player.
Holmes: You’ve got the tools, you just need to know how to use them.
Landauer: Yeah. And I am really smart, and don’t try to hide that I work really hard. I love learning. That nerdy aspect with this bad ass race car driver doesn’t seem natural. I think I’m a weird personality. Difference is cool and stands out on TV.
Holmes: I totally agree, there are so few nerdy bad asses like us.
Landauer: (Laughs) Love it.

Holmes: You just rattled off a long list of reasons of why I’d want to vote you out.
Landauer: Here’s the thing though, I’m also very young and people tend to underestimate the young people. Especially Kat on this last season, “I’m 22, I’m just having fun.” At 22 you’re not young enough to just be having fun, you need to be an adult.
Holmes: (Laughs) You’re an old soul. You remind me of Sophie from “South Pacific.” Is there anything you’re going to downplay?
Landauer: I think I have to downplay Stanford. I think that’s the least relatable aspect of my personality. I’ll play up the race car driver because I think people generally think of drivers as rednecks who aren’t very smart. Which is false, you can’t operate heavy machinery at those spends and not be smart. If people think I’m this young, rash race car driver, they could underestimate me and BOOM, I’ll go out and win “Survivor.”
Holmes: Have you prepared for what happens on Day One if I ask, “Where’d you go to school?”
Landauer: I’ve been going back and forth on this. I think I’d say Stanford, but I’m definitely emphasizing the race car driver thing more. I’m not going to advertise it, but I’m not going to lie about it.
Holmes: Do you have issues lying in the game?
Landauer: I think when you’re out in such a weird, new environment, to lie about a lot of things in addition to having to deceive other people in the game could get overwhelming. But, you do what you’ve got to do. These answers could totally change.
Holmes: So, push comes to shove, you’ll lie?
Landauer: I would lie. In the real world people lie.
Holmes: What?!
Landauer: I know, weird right? But, I want to make some enemies. That’s part of my strategy.
Holmes: That’s unique.
Landauer: Not a lot of enemies. But someone who is voted out early or maybe part of the jury.  One of the biggest problems with Amanda, she was on “Micronesia” and “China” and one other…
Holmes: “Heroes vs. Villains.”
Landauer: Right, one of the biggest things in all three of her seasons was she didn’t have any enemies on the jury. She played in three seasons and never won. I don’t want to be in that position. I want people to see that I took risks and made moves and part of that was making enemies.

Holmes: Some people flirt to get ahead. Is that an avenue you might pursue?
Landauer: I’m not a good flirt. That’s the problem.  I feel like the youth factor will play in more that flirting. I’m just not good at it.

Holmes: What’re we doing with the million dollars? I’m guessing race car parts.
Landauer: There are two possibilities. One is fund my racing career. Two is pay for college. I wouldn’t say I’m paying for my education until the end though, because I don’t want it to come off as a sob story.

Holmes: Do you have any experience roughing it?
Landauer: So…I have a fear of the dark. I should also mention that. It’s a genuine fear, don’t laugh at me.
Holmes: I’m not here to judge, I’m afraid of zombies and I’ve never actually seen one.
Landauer: (Laughs) I face the dark every day. So, I’m trying to get over it. I’ve practiced camping. We’re taking baby steps.

Holmes: If there is a twist, what do you think it will be?
Landauer: I feel like we could see some past Survivors returning. Other than that, I’m not sure. That’s the most common one. I think that’d be super cool, but a little intimidating. You could learn from them. And if you’re smart you vote off the returning people.

Holmes: You’ve been with this cast for a day. What are your first impressions?
Landauer: I think it’s a really intense group. You can see a lot of fire in people’s eyes. And then there are people where the intensity is not there. I’m not going to write them out just yet, because you never know. I think it’ll be a good season. They’re all kind of young too.
Holmes: What do you think their first impression of you is?
Landauer: I think I have a stern, natural look. But I also don’t think I look particularly old, I hope they think I’m a young kid. And I’m antsy and move around a lot, that adds to that youth factor. I hope they think I’m this kid here to have fun and then BOOM!
Holmes: The most bad ass nerd to ever win “Survivor.”
Landauer: Exactly.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fave Erik Reichenbach: ‘It’s an Island of Misfit Toys’

January 30, 2013

Erik Reichenbach (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Erik Reichenbach
Age: 27
Hometown: Santa Clarita, CA
Occupation: Comic Book Artist
Previous Finish: Erik came in 5th place in “Survivor: Fans vs. Favorites”
Memorable Moment: Erik was voted out shortly after giving his immunity idol to Natalie Bolton.
Fun Fact: Erik is the only person to ever go from being a “fan” to being a “favorite.”

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Favorties” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the new players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: So, when you gave up the idol…
Erik Reichenbach: What? You’re supposed to ask a couple of softball questions first.
Holmes: We don’t have that kind of time.
Reichenbach: (Laughs)
Holmes: Probst loves to bring that up, I believe he has at times called it his favorite Tribal Council moment of all time…
Reichenbach: Yup.
Holmes: I don’t think anyone remembers you negatively. Everyone seems to enjoy you as a character. But that moment has been hanging over your head for quite some time. How does it feel to get this second chance?
Reichenbach: I’m looking forward to it. But, if I focus on the redemption part, like I need to change my image I’m going to (expletive deleted) blow it. You probably can’t say that word in there.
Holmes: We’re fine.
Reichenbach: But I can’t focus on that or I’m going to blow it. This is the next chapter in the story of where I’m going in the game. The next step in the adventure. You’ve seen where I’ve made a mistake in the past and I’m going to try to grow from that this time.
Holmes: Are you all worried that your past experience has made you gun shy when it comes to big moves?
Reichenbach: I don’t think I’ll be gun shy so much as I’ll be…I’m trying not to focus on big moves, I’m trying to focus on the players. Knowing what’s right to do. So, in a way I might be gun shy on the moves, but you don’t need to make big moves to win the game. Sandra in her season “Heroes vs. Villains,” I don’t think she made too many big moves and she made it.
Holmes: There are a ton of examples of winners like that.
Reichenbach: Plus on this season you’re going to have huge egos. You’re going to have Cochran, you’re going to have some pretty big egos that want to make bold moves. You don’t have to be the one driving the car to get to where you’re going. I don’t know if that’s a good analogy.
Holmes: I think that’s a smart strategy, to be honest.
Reichenbach: I think a lot of people are going to do a lot of stupid (expletive deleted).
Holmes: I can’t wait.
Reichenbach: That’s what I’m excited for! I’m excited to see Phillip Sheppard talk to Brandon…what is that interaction going to be like? What is the interaction with Corinne going to be like with anybody?

Holmes: So you’re still a big fan?
Reichenbach: Oh yeah, huge fan of the show.
Holmes: That’s good to hear, I know some people have been on the show and the experience has soured them.
Reichenbach: I was sour for a while.
Holmes: I can imagine. It can’t be easy to hear people say those things about you.
Reichenbach: I was sour during “Samoa” and “Heroes vs. Villains” because it was the Russell show. And I just watched “Heroes vs. Villains” in preparation because I think it’s an accurate representation of what I’m going into.

Holmes: What’ve you been up to since we saw you in Micronesia?
Reichenbach: Not too much, been working a lot. Jumping around. I was working at Trader Joe’s for a while as an artist. I’ve been doing a lot of traveling. I got to go to Africa, South Africa, I got to go to Europe a bit. I went up and down the coast.
Holmes: For fun?
Reichenbach: Yeah.
Holmes: That’s cool.
Reichenbach: A lot of charity stuff. There’s one, Give Kids the World in Florida. But, basically just watching the show and hanging out.

Holmes: You have played with returnees in the past. Now you are a returnee. What did you learn from that experience?
Reichenbach: I think that’s a big plus, playing with people who’ve already played the game. I got to learn from them like how it works. I was with the Fans and it was a total train wreck. They were first timers, they didn’t know what they were doing. Then there was a swap and I got to play with Favorites who’d played the game before and they showed me the ropes. Ozzy took me under his wing and Amanda was one of my best friends out there. I think that’s a huge advantage.
Holmes: This is a dumb questions, but that’s never stopped me before…why do you think you were brought back?
Reichenbach: I think I was brought back because I made “Survivor” history by giving away the immunity idol to Natalie. And, that’s OK. That’s what people remember me for.
Holmes: People can hang on to things like that for too long. It’s seems good for you and your game that you’ve put that behind you.
Reichenbach: Oh yeah, I’d be nervous. The more you try not to think of something, the more you think of it.
Holmes: What’s it like to get that call after four years to come back?
Reichenbach: It’s awesome. It’s so cool. I was so nervous that it wasn’t going to happen because I was in the line-up for “Heroes vs. Villains” along with Natalie Bolton who voted me out. I was so bummed out when I didn’t get it.

Holmes: It’s day one, we arrive on the beach. I remember you from Micronesia. What do you think I remember about your gameplay?
Reichenbach: I think two things; they’re either going to think I’m a stupid kid who gave away immunity and am still pretty stupid, or they’re going to think that guy is going to try his ass off and try to earn redemption and be a big player.
Holmes: I feel like that can be very valuable.
Reichenbach: What do you mean?
Holmes: I always use Coach as an example. He was able to use people’s preconceived notions of him as an advantage. People thought he was a goof and he really wasn’t.
Reichenbach: Exactly.
Holmes: You have a lot to work. Someone who thinks your dumb will think they can control you.
Reichenbach: There’s no negative connotation attached to me.
Holmes: Right.
Reichenbach: I’m not Boston Rob or Parvati. Parvati always has a target on her back.

Holmes: If there is a twist, what do you think it will be?
Reichenbach: I don’t know. That’s why I like playing with no plan until you’re there. One thing that’s interesting is there’s one guy here and I don’t know who he is. So, he must be on one of the recent seasons. I’m hoping he’s not a Russell character. Also, there’s only one tribe so far. So, I don’t know if this is Fans vs. Favorites, or whatever the subhead ends up being.
Holmes: I honestly don’t know at this point.
Reichenbach: Fans vs. Failures.
Holmes: That’s very negative.
Reichenbach: (Laughs) It could be a Redemption Island, because I feel like a lot of the people here need redemption. I kind of like that. I would enjoy that for the sake of myself because I think I could do well.
Holmes: I rewatched Micronesia a year ago, and I’m trying to remember how well you did in individual immunity. I’m thinking you did well, right?
Reichenbach: I got three in a row and then the last one was the one where I gave up immunity. I could have won until the end which is what every person on the street has told me.
Holmes: What kind of reaction do you get on the street?
Reichenbach: It’s 50/50. People think I’m an idiot and I’m stupid and the others say, “We really wanted you to do good, we love you, let us bake you cookies.”
Holmes: Cookies? That happens?
Reichenbach: That happened a couple of times, which is weird.

Holmes: What are your thoughts on this cast so far?
Reichenbach: It’s an island of misfit toys. I like all of the people. They’re going to be awesome. They’re going to be hilarious. I can’t wait to talk to all of them. I’d love to talk to Brandon and share notes about giving up immunity.
Holmes: Anyone in particular you want to align with?
Reichenbach: I don’t want to align with anyone specifically, I want to align with numbers as they form. I’m trying not to be biased. Every piece of me wants to say don’t align with Phillip because he’s (expletive deleted) crazy. He’s a nutso. But, you can’t be emotional. You have to look at numbers.
Holmes: Of your fellow castmates, who do you think will do better the second time around?
Reichenbach: Francesca. (Laughs)
Holmes: You’ve had years to say, “I’ll do this different, I won’t make this mistake.” But so have they.
Reichenbach: I hope Cochran does better just because there’s so much hype around him. I hope he does better. Last time I thought was kind of shameful. I’d like to see how Corinne does. She was portrayed as a bitch last time and she’s not a bitch in real life. I hope I do better.
Holmes: You doing better would have you very close to a pretty big check.
Reichenbach: Yeah, it’d be a big deal.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fan Matt Bischoff: ‘I’m a Pretty Conservative Guy’

January 29, 2013

Matt Bischoff (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Matt Bischoff
Age: 38
Hometown: Cincinnati, OH
Occupation: Brand Manager of Two BMX Brands

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Fans” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the returning players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: What does a brand manager for a BMX brand do?
Matt Bischoff: I’m in charge of everything. All of the riders that ride for me. I develop new products. I deal with international distributors. I do a little bit of everything.
Holmes: Do you ride yourself?
Bischoff: Yes, I’m a pro bike rider. But, now that I’ve gotten older it’s transformed into more of the business side of things.
Holmes: I’m unfamiliar with the industry, so to be clear, we’re talking about bike tricks, X Games kind of things?
Bischoff: Yeah, it’s BMX like you see on the X Games.
Holmes: So you can do all of those crazy things like going off a ramp and spinning the bike around…
Bischoff: Going off of rails, all kinds of dangerous things. But, I always remember to wear a helmet.
Holmes: Is it going to be weird spending the next month and a half without a bicycle?
Bischoff: No,  because lately I’ve been so consumed with working. So, there hasn’t been as much riding going on the past couple of months anyway. And preparing to go on the show, I’ve been doing other activities. I didn’t want to get hurt. It’ll make me appreciate it a little more when I get back.

Holmes: You are a “Survivor” mega fan.
Bischoff: Yup.
Holmes: How many times have you applied?
Bischoff: I sent in a video, and the second I sent it in I told my wife I was getting on this show.
Holmes: This was your first application?
Bischoff: No, I applied back in maybe 2005. I sent in a video and never got a response. For years after that, I thought there are so many people who apply, I’m not going to even bother. But, that’s not my motto in life. I make a lot of things happen. A lot of people call it “The Bischoff Effect.”  It’s not being lucky, it’s being proactive and following your dreams. And I made the video and that’s that. I’m super stoked that I put my mind to it, I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time.
Holmes: Why do you think you were picked?
Bischoff: Because there are a lot of facets to my personality. I look a certain way. People judge me a certain way because of the tattoos, the gnarly beard, I ride BMX. But, I’m a pretty conservative guy. I love my family. I love my kids. I love just hanging out and spending time with them. I have a major sensitive side to me. Some men are afraid to cry, I wear my emotions on my sleeve. Saying goodbye to the family was emotional.

Holmes: You’re the lead singer in a band. Is there any lead singer syndrome in you? You know, where the lead singer has a big head?
Bischoff: (Laughs) No. Singing in a band, being with a group of people, working with BMX people, I know how to find my place and when I need to shut up I can shut up. I don’t have this super cocky attitude. Sometimes you have to sit back and observe and not ruffle too many feathers in this game. I don’t think I’ll have that problem. But I can be a leader if people aren’t stepping up.

Holmes: You have a hell of a beard.
Bischoff: (Laughs) Aw yeah.
Holmes: And Hans Langseth pretty much rules your life?
Bischoff: He rules my life so much that I have a tattoo of him covering my entire back. He is the man from Norway with the world’s largest beard. His beard was 17.5 feet long when he died. I’ve just been fascinated by him. I’ve actually started to let my beard dread, because the only way to achieve a mega beard is by dreading. Everyone’s  hair has a genetic terminal length. I’m going for the gold medal in the longest beard. I’m dedicating my life to see how long it’ll grow.
Holmes: When was the last time you were clean shaven?
Bischoff: Seven years ago. But I’ve had a beard ever since I could grow facial hair. It’s funny, because I can’t stand shaving my face, but I shave my arms and my chest and things like that.
Holmes: I’ve got to ask, can I see the tattoo?
Bischoff: Yeah, man. (Matt stands and unveils his back tattoo.)
Holmes: Wow, that’s really good work.
Bischoff: Yeah, Chris Garver from Miami Ink did that tattoo.

Note: Matt’s back tattoo is huge and very impressive. Hopefully they give us some good shots of it this season.

Holmes: As far as your “Survivor” gameplay goes, how do you feel about lying?
Bischoff: Here’s the deal, anyone who watches the show has got to realize that there is lying and deceiving and backstabbing. And even when you feel comfortable, you can be blindsided. I’m going into this game knowing how it works and I’m going to do whatever it takes to win. So, if that means backstabbing a friend? My goal is to win and I’ll do whatever it takes. You can’t play this game completely honest. But, after the game is over, everyone should respect who wins the game.
Holmes: It’s easy to say that when you’re the person winning this game. If you were a jury member, could you vote for someone who you thought was the best player but had stabbed you in the back?
Bischoff: You’ve got to respect people that make it farther than you. If you backstab me, I’m going to have an emotion of being pissed off. But, I’m going to vote for someone like you over someone that would ride coattails and not play the game.
Holmes: So, no respect for coattail riders?
Bischoff: This game takes a lot of luck and big moves and I think a lot of people want to sit back and chill and watch the game. I’ve got to be able to spot opportunities and make big moves when necessary.

Holmes: What are you going to do with that million-dollar check?
Bischoff: Invest in my future and my retirement. Buy a house in a better school district.
Holmes: Good dad.
Bischoff: Yeah, invest the money for my family’s future.

Holmes: If there is going to be a twist, what do you think it will be?
Bischoff: I think it will be Fans vs. Favorites. That’s my opinion. I could be totally wrong. But, I think there are going to be returning players. I think it could be a tribe of newbies versus a tribe of people who come back. I could be completely wrong.

Holmes: Any early impressions of your fellow cast members?
Bischoff: In my mind I’ve given these people nicknames. We’ve got “Jersey Shore” and “The US Marine” and there’s the “Model Dude” and there’s some attractive young women. A bunch of blondes. So, we’ll see how their work ethic is. Will they be laying under the sun or putting in work? If they’re not doing any work, I’m not going to complain about it and be like Phillip bitching at them to do stuff.

Holmes: If you don’t feed me, I’m a (expletive deleted). Do you have any problems like that with lack of food, lack of sleep…
Bischoff: There’s three things in my life that get me really irritable; if I don’t have sex for a  period of time.
Holmes: Well, I’ve got bad news for you on that one.
Bischoff: (Laughs) If I’m hungry…
Holmes: More bad news.
Bischoff: Or if I’m tired.
Holmes: It’s a clean sweep.
Bischoff: (Laughs) I definitely think those things will make me irritable. I don’t know how it’s going to affect my personality, but I’m going to try to roll with the punches as best I can.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fave Dawn: ‘I’m Going to Have to Take Control’

January 28, 2013

Dawn Meehan (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Dawn Meehan
Age: 42
Hometown: South Jordan, Utah
Occupation: English Professor
Previous Finish: Dawn came in 10th place in “Survivor: South Pacific”
Memorable Moment: Dawn won an immunity challenge for the Savaii tribe by outlasting Stacey Powell in an impressive weight-holding challenge.

Fun Fact: Dawn is the most dominant Power Ranker in XFINITY TV history, having defeated myself, Jim Rice, Sophie Clarke, Christine Shields-Markoski, and a “Survivor” Hall of Fame Coffee Mug.

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Favorties” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the new players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: OK, I know we don’t have a friendly past, but I’d appreciate you keeping your language clean, this is a family site.
Dawn Meehan: (Laughs) When I get mad I do swear like a sailor.
Holmes: Like every other word. It’s uncomfortable.
Meehan: It’s true.
Holmes: I was a little surprised to see your name on the cast list.
Meehan: So was I! (Laughs)
Holmes: It doesn’t make sense, but it does makes sense. You weren’t like this big, flashy (expletive deleted), but you can only have so many of those. You had a great story with how you turned things around during your time in Samoa. Either way, I was excited.
Meehan: Aww…thank you.

Holmes: You are the most dominant XFINITY TV Power Ranker of all time. Now, you didn’t play a full season, but every round you played, you won. And you nailed the “One World” final five exactly.
Meehan: I know.
Holmes: Do you think that exercise will help you in the coming game?
Meehan: I really enjoyed doing the Power Rankings because I felt like I wasn’t emotionally attached and I could really understand personalities. Like, who was fishing together and who was sleeping next to each other. I just watched those things and went with what I thought based on what I saw. I think when you’re inside the game sometimes you become too emotionally attached and you don’t use logic. You just use emotion and you make decisions that aren’t necessarily rational. And I thought about it each time I’ve done rankings and though, “If I could just play like this,” which I know I can. It kind of gave me confidence realizing I can do this. My perception is right.
Holmes: So, if you pull this off…
Meehan: If I pull this off I think that the Power Rankings will be the best PSAT course ever for “Survivor.”
Holmes: You’re so going to owe me.
Meehan: For a million dollars? I’ll get you a new mug.
Holmes: Oh sweet. Man, you hate that mug.
Meehan: I hate muggsy.
Holmes: I don’t want to get you too excited, but Coach got to the finals of your season after being a Power Ranker.
Meehan: (Laughs) That’s right!
Holmes: Before the Power Rankings, he was like the ninth guy out.
Meehan: I know.
Holmes: After the Power Rankings, final three.
Meehan: That’s right.
Holmes: Final two, actually. He got some votes.
Meehan: True.
Holmes: Bad news though, the mug was cast too. And it holds a grudge.
Meehan: (Laughs) I’ve beaten that mug before.

Holmes: Alright, I hate to besmirch your character, but is it true that you’ve been bribing people with bread?
Meehan: Yes, I will always bribe people with bread. In fact, I don’t even know if I’d call that a bribe, it’s just me. I like bread, a lot of it. I make it every day to eat. I can’t imagine not giving it to people. My arms are all burned from the baking.
Holmes: That’s terrible. How does that happen?
Meehan: When you take it out I always hit a heating element. So, if I win the million, new oven.
Holmes: If you win the million, instead of oven mitts, we will get you full oven sleeves.
Meehan: I could get longer sleeves, I could take Panera on.
Holmes: Someone on Twitter called you “Dawn of the Bread” and I was jealous that I didn’t think of it first.
Meehan: The bread sounds so cliché, but I love carbs.

Holmes: One of the things I remember about our interview before “South Pacific” was that you were very wary of being deceptive in the game. Now that you’ve got some experience under your belt, has your attitude changed?
Meehan: I totally get that it’s a game. I wasn’t easily offended in the game. It didn’t bother me to blindside Elyse. That’s what the game is about. I don’t like harming people in the game. So, decisions that affect the outcome of the game? No problem. Things that you say in the game or decisions you make that are going to damage someone’s credibility in real life? That bothers me. So, I don’t like to be super negative or criticize people’s behavior. I don’t like to cut people down.
Holmes: There’s a line with that kind of stuff. Lie to get ahead.
Meehan: Right.
Holmes: But don’t do things just to do them or to make people feel bad.
Meehan: Right.
Holmes: (Laughs) Maybe that’s a terrible attitude. I’ll lie to you, but only if it benefits me.
Meehan: I think I’m stronger emotionally this time. There is a tiny bit of me that’s probably the Sally Field, “You like me, you really like me” because I’ve been invited back. That was really humbling. I think I’ll have a little more confidence this time.
Holmes: I had to pull some strings to make it happen.
Meehan: (Laughs) I so appreciate it. I’ll thank you in my large-check acceptance speech.
Holmes: That leads right into this…why do you think you were brought back?
Meehan: I think because I was a competitor. I was tough in challenges. I did have some moments where I was able to stand out. I think I had some moments where people were able to see themselves. I’m just an average person that got to do something extraordinary.
Holmes: I’m a fan of whenever someone gets to have a defined character arc in a season. You got to have that where you went from crying to Ozzy on day three to being a challenge bad ass.
Meehan: I think this season will be a continuation. I felt like there was so much game left in me when I was voted out. I was just kind of getting it. It was finally happening. So for me, this is more act two than it is a different version. I think it’s a more confident Dawn, who’s still able to do well in the challenges, but maybe more strategic than I was.

Holmes: What’ve you been up to since we saw you last?
Meehan: I’ve been tweeting. (Laughs)
Holmes: That is true.
Meehan: I love Twitter. I’m teaching back at BYU. I’ve been speaking at a lot of universities and a lot of high schools, talking about the experience of “Survivor.” There are so many fans of the show who want to know how did you prepare for it, was it as a hard as you thought, that kind of thing. I told my husband, “I can’t believe they’re having me back.” And he says, “Every time I go hear you speak I think they’re going to have you back because people love to hear about it and you’re a regular person.”
Holmes: Do your kids know what Mom’s up to?
Meehan: My kids do know, they have to sign the releases.
Holmes: Are they psyched?
Meehan: Yeah! They sent me with all of these cards and pictures. It was harder for them this time. We had just adopted our last two kids three months before I left last time. So, this time they’ve been with me over a year. So, I think it was more emotional for them.
Holmes: So you just bring in new kids and are like, “See ya.”
Meehan: (Laughs) Totally.
Holmes: Your husband is a saint.
Meehan: My husband is a saint. I missed our anniversary last year, anniversary this year, the daughter that we just adopted her birthday last year, her birthday this year. I said to her, “I’ve been your mom for two years and I’ve missed both birthdays.” So, we did her birthday before I left.
Holmes: Think of how you can spoil her for her next birthday with a million dollars.
Meehan: They reminded me. I always say that, “Your wealth is in your family.” And the kids said, “Do you know much good can come from a million dollars?”
Holmes: That’s a lot of bread…no pun intended.
Meehan: (Laughs) So they say, “Think of all the kids you could adopt.”
Holmes: So, after you win, six more?
Meehan: Sixty more! Why not?
Holmes: Sixty six kids? You’ll get your own reality show, you won’t need “Survivor.”
Meehan: (Laughs)
Holmes: “Just the Sixty Eight of Us.” I’m going to go grab that url.
Meehan: “Sixty Eight Is Enough!”
Holmes: Damnit, that’s way better.

Holmes: You played with returnees. You played with Ozzy and Coach. What did you learn from watching them?
Meehan: Well, I learned that as a newbie you’re not super thrilled to play with someone who is returning. And, you want them out. That’s something that I’m a little bit nervous about. You do come in with a target on your back. I think in my case, I’m hoping that the way I played will still keep people thinking, “She’s a good person to keep around. She’ll be good pre-merge, she’ll be good in challenges, you can trust her, she went down with her sinking ship.” Maybe that way I’ll be seen as someone who can be aligned with.
Holmes: As someone who has a reputation for being a nice person, does that give you the opportunity to be more devious?
Meehan: Yeah. I think I was that way in the game before. I was willing to take Ozzy out. I really was willing to make the big moves. I’m going to have to take control if I want that to happen instead of just following.
Holmes: And you’re prepared to do that?
Meehan: Yeah, for sure. The Power Rankings made me realize that.
Holmes: I know!
Meehan: I’m not kidding. Because when I’d be right on I’d think, “I knew it! I saw it the week before!”
Holmes: You’re going to be a rich lady.
Meehan: I hope so.

Holmes: You’re going to love this.
Meehan: Oh no.
Holmes: Between “South Pacific” and “One World” we’ve seen people who are on the bottom of their alliances who either don’t realizing they’re on the bottom, or aren’t willing to do anything to get on top until it’s too late. Why do you think that happens?
Meehan: I think the person that’s in control of the decision making has persuaded them to the point that they don’t believe…Kat did not believe Troyzan. It’s not that Brandon was OK being sixth or seventh, he thought he was going to be top four or top three. He believed that. It’s not being accepting of this mediocrity or just “Hey, I wanted to stay until the family visit.” Someone’s been persuasive enough that you don’t believe the other person. So, I think hats off to Coach for giving four other people the sense that they were in the top three.
Holmes: So, the Coachs, Sophies, Kims, should be commended more than the others should be given grief?
Meehan: Yeah. Edna didn’t believe for a minute that she was the bottom, even with Jim laying it out at Tribal Council. It didn’t matter. She still believed it. I think people all thought that Kim was taking them to the final three. Coach and Kim were very similar, people trusted them.

Holmes: What are your first impressions of the cast members you see running around here?
Meehan: OK, nervous about Corinne. We have a different approach (Laughs) to the game. I’m nervous about her, not because I’m afraid of her, but she’s definitely tough. I’m excited about Francesca. I loved her. I was sad to see her go. I don’t know her, so I’m excited to get to know her. I think she’s someone I could trust. Not sure what’s going to happen with having two other players from my season who both voted me out. To me, Brandon and Cochran developed a really strong bond. That’s what I saw in the game, almost a brotherhood.
Holmes: Well, when you share a sweater vest…
Meehan: I expected Brandon to name a child after John.
Holmes: Give him time.
Meehan: It was only them in a bubble for a lot of hours every day. They’ll be strongly aligned and Cochran will probably need someone like that quickly. I don’t know where I’ll fit in with them.
Holmes: Is there anyone in particular that you want to align with?
Meehan: Well, I love Erik, just from a fan standpoint. I love the way he played. I just think he’s so authentic. I’m looking toward Francesca, Andrea, the two from my season, and Erik. I’m nervous about Phillip because I just don’t know Phillip well enough from outside of what I’ve seen in the game. Is he crazy like a fox or just crazy? I saw the feather today.
Holmes: He brought a feather?
Meehan: The mug and the feather are doing their own junket.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fan Allie Pohevitz: ‘People Trust Me Right Away’

January 25, 2013

Allie Pohevitz (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Alexandra “Allie” Pohevitz
Age: 25
Hometown: Oceanside, NY
Occupation: Bartender/Nanny

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Fans” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the returning players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Gordon Holmes: I feel like bartending is a good job to prepare you for “Survivor.” You have to able to listen, you deal with a wide variety of people, you have to know how to get people to like you…
Allie Pohevitz: It’s definitely a good match. You have to deal with all types of people. People come in on their best days when they’re so excited and they want to do shots, and then people come in when they’re crying because somebody just broke up with them.
Holmes: So either way, still doing shots.
Pohevitz: Yeah, still doing shots.
Holmes: Is that going to be rough for you when you don’t have shots to pour out?
Pohevitz: (Laughs) Yeah. It’s going to be rough because when people get out of hand I just call the bouncer and he sends them away. Here, I still have to be nice to them and kiss their ass.
Holmes: Or they’ll send you away.
Pohevitz: Exactly.

Holmes: You were the Editor-in-Chief for your school magazine “The Pioneer.”
Pohevitz: I was.
Holmes: First of all, writers are all (expletive deleted).
Pohevitz: (Laughs) Yes, I agree.
Holmes: As you’re going to relearn over the course of this interview. In that role, you must’ve had to have dealt with a lot of people with various personalities over something that they care very deeply about. That experience seems like another “Survivor” plus.
Pohevitz: Yeah, I had to deal with the sports people and the entertainment people, the theater people. It was never one specific genre. And as a student magazine people didn’t take you seriously. Trying to get interviews, people looked at you and thought, “We don’t owe you anything.” So you still have to press them to get the information, but you don’t want to be overbearing so they hate you and don’t help you out.

Holmes: You hate dirty people.
Pohevitz: Yes. (Laughs) Which doesn’t bode well for this show.
Holmes: Best case scenario, you’ve got 39 days in front of you with dirty people.
Pohevitz: There’s a difference between living on an island, we’re going to be dirty, we’re going to have (expletive deleted) under our nails. We’re not going to look cute. There’s a difference between that and being disgusting in public. People sneezing all over other people. Not washing your hands after using the bathroom. If you leave eighty dishes in the sink, you’re just lazy. Take care of it. I’m not worried about people being dirty on the island.
Holmes: I think there has to be a switch that goes off when you’re out there that we’re all dirty, and that’s just how it is and I don’t care. Things just smell.
Pohevitz: I always wonder when I see the people cuddling or doing romantic things, I’m just thinking, that’s disgusting. You haven’t brushed your teeth in weeks.
Holmes: You talk so fast.
Pohevitz: I know. I’m sorry.
Holmes: No worries, we’re recording.

Holmes: I’m about to give you some grief.
Pohevitz: Oh, great.
Holmes: The three things you would take on an island would be…
Pohevitz: No, I had wanted to apply forever and ever and I came home from the gym one night and it was January 10th and I looked online and said “Deadline: Midnight, January 10th.” So, I’m thinking, “Oh (expletive deleted). Let me bring eye liner and Crest white strips.” I’m so hilarious. So, those are not my real answers.
Holmes: You’re going to be the prettiest, starving person out there.
Pohevitz: Exactly.
Holmes: Alright, here’s your mulligan, what three things would you take with you for real?
Pohevitz: I would bring things that would keep me entertained. Like Scattegories, you could write on the back, you could keep a journal. I would bring something that would help us on the island. Like a huge wall hanging, like a blanket that reminds me of home, but isn’t like a picture of my cat. Actually, that would be my third thing, my cat, he’s my best friend.
Holmes: And his name is?
Pohevitz: Wolf, he’s eighteen years old, I’ve had him since I was six. He’s my best buddy.
Holmes: I get a kick out of people who name their pets after other animals. My friend Pam has a dog named Rooster.
Pohevitz: (Laughs) I was six! And technically his name is Wolfgang, we call him Wolf for short.

Holmes: You think that anyone who says they aren’t playing “Survivor” for the money is either a liar or brain dead. People go on this show for a variety of reasons.
Pohevitz: Yes, but they’re always thinking of money in the background.
Holmes: I think a million dollars is awesome. But I would be more interested in the title of sole Survivor. Would you think I was trying to con you if we were playing together?
Pohevitz: People who go in and say “I’m just playing for the experience,” and then throw in that they have $50,000 in student loans are lying. You’re trying to get sympathy. But, you’re clearly a liar. I’d much rather give the money in the end to someone who’s not sitting up there saying,  “I’m going to give $900,000 of this to charity.” No, you’re not. You’re lying to me. You’re going to buy a car and pay your bills and go on vacation. Then maybe you will give some to charity.

Holmes: Why do you think you were cast?
Pohevitz: Like you said, I talk fast. I can come up with things quickly. I’m a bartender, I can deal with a bunch of different people. I make a good first impression. People trust me right away. I can tell you half the names of the people here because people say them in private, then they say, “Oh, you didn’t hear that from me.” Even people that are supposed to be keeping secrets from me are telling me more than I should know.
Holmes: Do you mean the contestant wranglers?
Pohevitz: Yeah.
Holmes: I didn’t let anything slip yet, did I?
Pohevitz: Just Rooster.
Holmes: I don’t think he’ll be out there. But there tend to be twists so you never know.
Pohevitz: Maybe I’ll eat him.
Holmes: You’re a terrible person.
Pohevitz: (Laughs) I wouldn’t eat a dog.

Holmes: Do you have a line you won’t cross as far as lying in this game?
Pohevitz: Nope. It depends if you’re lying in relation to the game. I didn’t get why people say they’re five years older or younger. That’s a pointless lie and you’re just lying to amuse yourself. As far as lies in the game go, you have to lie. If you swear on your kids? That’s for you to deal with. I don’t care.
Holmes: If I was a doctor or someone who made a ton of money I would lie.
Pohevitz: Oh yeah, something like that. Absolutely. If you’re a millionaire plastic surgeon say you work at CVS.

Holmes: You’re a lovely young woman.
Pohevitz: Thank you. But…?
Holmes: But you talk too fast! No, that was just an observation. What I was getting at was, do you have any moral problems using your looks to get ahead?
Pohevitz: I don’t see why I wouldn’t, I just don’t think that will be my first approach to things. I think a lot of people see me and think, “She’s cute, she must be an idiot. She’s going to be following everybody.” If you think that, I’m not going to go out of my way to disprove you. But, I’m also not going to be flirty. I want people to see me for the smart person I am. It depends on the person too. If I like you, I’m naturally flirty with you. Men, women, it doesn’t matter. I’m just a happy, nice person in general.
Holmes: It’s not an overt flirting.
Pohevitz: Yeah, it’s just who I am.

Holmes: Recently people on the bottom of alliances haven’t making moves until it’s too late. Why do you think that’s a trend?
Pohevitz: I think people become complacent with where they are. People say, “My whole family said I was going to be the first person voted out, so if I’m still here the third week that’s great.”
Holmes: Did your family say that?
Pohevitz: No, my family thinks I’m going to come back a millionaire. Like Christina this past season (“One World”), I had no problem with her, I like her. But, the whole cast is saying nasty things about her, like she didn’t belong there. And she was just proving them right. So many of us people have wanted to be on this show forever. I’m going to do everything I possibly can to advance myself in the game. And she just let it go. I don’t get it. It’s hard to watch as a fan.

Holmes: Do you have any experience roughing it?
Pohevitz: Nope! Not a day in my life.
Holmes: You’re so screwed.
Pohevitz: I’m really competitive. I think I’ll be fine with the elements. I’ve never camped outside, but I adapt very well to things. And I’m not someone to cry and give up.

Holmes: What are your first impressions of the cast?
Pohevitz: Everyone but one of us was at finals together. So, I had preformed opinions on everyone coming in. Everyone I didn’t like in the finals, is not here. So, CBS agreed with me on that.
Holmes: When you’re done winning this season, you should apply for a casting job.
Pohevitz: Yeah! Everybody seems alright, but it’s hard when you can’t make eye contact. But, I don’t want to form opinions so soon.  There are a few that I like. I like the girl with the long blonde hair, her name is Laura Alexander.
Holmes: You know who you’re like? I watched this show about a high-security prison and they talked about how guards would cover their mouths when they talked because the inmates could read their lips and learn about the guard’s wives and families and use that information against them.
Pohevitz: (Laughs) I’m definitely nosy.

Holmes: If there’s a twist, what do you think it will be?
Pohevitz: Fans vs. Favorites. Definitely.
Holmes: OK.
Pohevitz: I think everybody here put down “Super Fan” on their application. There’s only ten of us here, so if it was Fans vs. Favorites I could see them bringing in ten returning players.
Holmes: If there are any returning players, is there anyone in particular you’d like to see?
Pohevitz: The problem with that is; the people I’d want to see would be the people I really liked, but I wouldn’t want to play against them because I’m going to want to be friends with them and keep them around, which would be stupid. It’d have to be someone along the lines of a Colton or an Alicia that you’d be OK getting rid of.
Holmes: So you’re hoping for more of a Fans vs. People You Don’t Like.
Pohevitz: (Laughs) Fans vs. (expletive deleted).
Holmes: I don’t think CBS would go for that subtitle.

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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‘Survivor: Caramoan’ Fave Malcolm: ‘Girls Are More Terrifying Than Guys’

January 23, 2013

Malcolm Freberg (CBS)

I had a chance to sit down with all twenty of the “Fans vs. Favorites” competitors the day before they left for the Caramoan Islands. I’ll be posting exclusive interviews with each contestant every weekday until we get through all of them. Be sure to follow me on Twitter (@gordonholmes) for tons of updates.

Name: Malcolm Freberg
Age: 25
Hometown: Hermosa Beach, CA
Occupation: Bartender
Previous Finish: Malcolm came in 4th place in “Survivor: Philippines”
Memorable Moment: Malcolm allowed Lisa Whelchel’s brother to visit the tribe’s camp. Lisa’s brother promptly told her to vote Malcolm out.

Note: The “Survivor: Caramoan” pre-game interviews are unlike the pre-game interviews we’ve done in the past. Usually, the interviews take place on location, this time they took place in Los Angeles before the players flew out. At this point, all the “Favorties” know is that they’re flying out in the next few days. They have seen each other, but haven’t seen the new players.  They don’t know for sure where they’re going, and they don’t know any of the season’s twists.

Another Note: Since “Survivor: Philippines” hadn’t aired yet, I knew nothing about how Malcolm had performed.

Gordon Holmes: Whenever we go to “Survivor,” me, the press, Probst, we all sit down and we talk about who we like. I liked me some Malcolm.
Malcolm Freberg: My man. Appreciate that.
Holmes: So, you can’t tell me a thing about what happened in the Philippines, which is fine… and don’t do it. I need to stay pure and unspoiled for the Power Rankings.
Freberg: I won’t.
Holmes: When I left the Philippines you were in bad shape. Zane was voted out. You were on a tribe that seemed like it was destined for destruction.
Freberg: (Laughs)
Holmes: So…when I saw your name in the bios, I was super psyched. But, then that elation was followed by immediate depression.
Freberg: Depression?
Holmes: Because seeing your quick return made me think you didn’t win. Also, I’m thinking the reason you were brought back is because you did something super evil or super stupid.
Freberg: (Laughs) You’ll just have to wait and see.

Holmes: You are basically the new Russell Hantz in the sense that you’re going back into the game and nobody knows a thing about you. Is that a benefit or a detriment?
Freberg: I’m the new Russell…plus a foot. I just walked by Brandon Hantz in the hall and he barely scrapes my nipple.
Holmes: (Laughs) We just started and you’re already taking us way off track.
Freberg: (Laughs) It’s a double-edged sword. Because of Russell it’s a detriment because of how notorious he was. Everyone felt more duped because they didn’t have a chance to see him play first. That’s not necessarily the way I’m going to play it, but there’s a stigma that I have an advantage because nobody has seen me play. But, at the same time I’m a complete wild card. There are people out there who have negative stigmas already attached to them for what they did on their seasons. So, when it comes to going with someone you know is going to be a liability versus someone you don’t know anything about. Maybe you go with the wild card in that instance.
Holmes: But sometimes people will take the devil they know over the devil they don’t know. If I’m playing, here’s this kid I’ve never seen play before, and he had to do something to be brought back so quickly.
Freberg: The story I’m going with is I’m coming back because of the wonderful bounce in my hair.
Holmes: No sane person could debate that fact.
Freberg: Now that I have a look at who’s back, I’m not as worried about being shunned. Just because of aspects of the game that are important early in the game. Looking at some of the guys here, not to name names, but they’re not big physical competitors.
Holmes: You can name names, I can’t.
Freberg: OK, maybe you can give Brandon and Erik a little credit, but there are no other big guys. If someone’s going to try to take a hold of this game, they’re going to need to keep me at least a little while. It gives me time to show that I’m not this crazy, egomaniacal, kill-all, destruction strategist like Russell.

Holmes: You’re a huge “Survivor” fan.
Freberg: I am.
Holmes: What do you think the twist is, if there is one other than bringing back guys with amazing bounce in their hair?
Freberg: So, there’s ten favorites back, five guys, five girls. I’d imagine that we haven’t seen another ten. They’re probably not returnees. So, a repeat of season sixteen, Fans vs. Favorites. If that’s the case, more power to me. There were returning players in my season and I know what it’s like for the new people to see people they’ve seen on TV and have to play with them. The aura that’s around them, people get timid around that. People aren’t going to be as aggressive or as confident around people that they’ve seen on TV. You’re just the rookie on the baseball team. It’s your first at bat and you’re having to go against Mariano Rivera. You might be the best stud batter out of college, but you’re going to be nervous going against the veteran.

Holmes: Based on who you’ve seen, is there anyone you want to align with, anyone who scares you?
Freberg: Scares me? Nobody scares me, Gordon.
Holmes: I’m an idiot. Terrible choice of words.
Freberg: Phillip Sheppard and his underwear keep me up at night.
Holmes: See, you’re not a machine, you’re a human being.
Freberg: If he wears those things again…he’s already walking around with a feather. (Laughs) I was hoping maybe he’s a sane guy and we could have a rational conversation, but then I saw that.
Holmes: If that dude doesn’t finish the season with a full headdress I’m going to be so disappointed.
Freberg: I’m going to give him a new feather every day.
Holmes: Off track again!
Freberg: Allies… Strategically, the girls are more terrifying than the guys.
Holmes: Like who?
Freberg: Brenda, Andrea’s pretty smart, Corinne’s terrifying…but she didn’t really do anything strategically, but at the same time, they’re very Type-A girls. Wait, is that a thing?
Holmes: Yeah, you’re thinking of alpha males, but there are Type-A girls.
Freberg: They’re super Type-A girls where it seems like the guys didn’t come out of the gates as dominant on their first season.
Holmes: Knowing that, are you more likely to follow or work with a Type-A girl or lead around some of these guys?
Freberg: I don’t do critical thinking well around pretty girls. I learned that about myself the first time around. So, probably can’t do the girls just because my brain gets befuddled when pheromones start running. So, I’m naturally drawn to go with the guys, but Cochran will turn on you in a second, Brandon…I can’t even discuss Brandon, and Phillip’s crazy. And, Erik…I guess maybe I should align with Erik.
Holmes: What does all of this say about you?
Freberg: I know. (Laughs) What did I do that was so bad?

Holmes: This interview sucks.
Freberg: (Laughs)
Holmes: Seriously, this is really hard to do without knowing what happened in the Philippines.
Freberg: I’m thinking about my answers too, which is much less fun.
Holmes: OK, without getting spoilery, why do you think you were brought back?
Freberg: It can’t just be your looks. It can’t just be because I’m funny.
Holmes: Yes, but that combination can’t be denied.
Freberg: (Laughs) But there needs to be more!
Holmes: As the first Survivor to kill a man during the game, they had no choice but to bring you back.
Freberg: Being the first Survivor to take off his ice skate and stab somebody.

Holmes: Did you learn anything your first time around? Will you do things differently?
Freberg: You have to learn. When you play a football game, you go back and watch the tape. Having done it once, I know I can do certain things well in the game of “Survivor.” There are things I’m not great at. Now there’s no learning curve, especially having just done it. I’m going to hit the beach on day one and know exactly what I’m supposed to start doing.

Holmes: Playing back-to-back seasons took a big toll on Russell. Are you worried that you might not be physically up to it?
Freberg: I’m definitely not where I was the first time I went in, just muscle-mass wise. I only had a few weeks in the States in between seasons. I haven’t been eating healthy at all. It’s basically ice cream and beer. (Laughs)
Holmes: That’s pretty much my diet. I’ve been putting on sympathy weight for you.
Freberg: Appreciate it. But I’ve got cake batter on one love handle and chocolate chip cookie dough on the other and then beer in the middle. So, physically I am not in the same space that I was. But, I’m still in the upper tier as far as physical strength goes. But, part of the game is turning your strengths into weaknesses. At some point being strong is a weakness. If I can get really broken down for a few weeks, maybe that’s a move I pull out of my belt. Maybe it’s a feint I use a couple of weeks into the game

Holmes: I’m going to say something that’s probably going to break your heart.
Freberg: Oh no…
Holmes: Which is a shame.
Freberg: Because I have a fragile heart where you’re concerned.
Holmes: I’m aware. You’re human. When we spoke in the Philippines I said to myself, “If Malcolm does well out there, I’d love to have him do the Power Rankings for Season 26.” And then you went and got yourself cast on Season 26.
Freberg: (Laughs)
Holmes: How does it feel to miss out on the chance of a lifetime?
Freberg: I love the Power Rankings. Dawn just won.
Holmes: Dawn cleaned house.
Freberg: I guess I’m going to have to walk out of this interview. A chance at a million dollars is nice, but the chance of winning the Power Rankings… Wait, what do you win if you win the Power Rankings?
Holmes: One year it was a Jeff Probst bobblehead that was painted gold.
Freberg: Tell you what, you promise me a three-foot-tall, gold Jeff Probst statue with a snuffer, I’ll walk out right now. Oh, now she (the CBS Representative) looks nervous.
Holmes: You don’t have back-ups ready if he bolts?
CBS Representative: (Laughs) We’ve got nothing.
Holmes: The lure of the Power Rankings is too strong.
Freberg: It’s like I’m engaged to one girl now, but you’re so much prettier.
CBS Representative: Can’t he do it after this one?
Holmes: I guess.
Freberg: Maybe the magic will be gone.
Holmes: He’s going to be all changed after he’s been featured on national television.
Freberg: It’ll be like your high school girlfriend. She’ll always be your first love, but you’re not the same people anymore.
CBS Representative: But he hasn’t changed.
Holmes and Freberg: Not yet.
Holmes: Come talk to this guy in December when he’s a (expletive deleted).

Don’t miss the two-hour premiere of “Survivor: Caramoan – Fans vs. Favorites,” Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8 p.m. ET on CBS.

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